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- Panelists:
- Laurie Maggiano, HUD
- Leslie Bromer, HUD
- Tom Rose, HUD Santa Ana HOC
- Robert Klein, CEO Safeguard Properties
- Marc Hinkle, PHH Mortgage
- Jack Evans, Chase Home Finance
- Barb Komisarof, Bank of America
- Sherilee Massier, Wells Fargo
- Caroline Reaves, MCS
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- Is work completed per bid approval included in total P&P costs to
date?
- Yes, when the cost of work to be completed exceeds the scheduled amount
the lender must request an over-allowable. All requests to exceed cost limits
should advise/include amounts spent to-date on the request. The M&M can then determine if
approval of those additional costs are feasible. When debris is removed from a 1 unit
dwelling in excess of 12 cubic yards then that amount is counted against
the total allowable for debris removal and any subsequent debris removal
services will require an over-allowable.
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- If a servicer removes 10 cans of paint per bid approval, does that
negate the 12 cyd allowable to remove debris and health hazards on
subsequent visits to the property?
- Yes
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- If a servicer removes 14 cyds of exterior debris per bid approval, does
that negate the 12 cyd allowable to remove debris and health hazards on
subsequent visits to the property?
- Yes
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- Servicers would like clear instruction as to when debris removal should
be claimed per CYD or per man hours following an Eviction.
- Any debris removal required for an eviction will be reimbursed as
man-hours (whether removing debris from the interior or
exterior/curb-side) even if the work is not performed on the date of the
actual eviction. No bids are
required.
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- M&M Contractors are requiring 2nd bids for exterior debris or
health hazard items that are bid less than $200, and cannot be removed
by the CYD allowable.
- Mortgagees will not be asked to obtain a second bid for an
over-allowable expense if the cost of the item or service is $250.00 or
less.
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- Servicers are receiving large demand letters in the amount of $1000 for
“possible freeze damages” because the plumbing lines would not hold
pressure at the time of the M&M’s initial inspection. The only evidence provided by the
M&M is a quote to look for broken pipes behind the walls. Servicers are not required to perform
pressure tests on dry heating systems.
If a small amount of water is found in the system, then the
servicers should only receive a demand letter for the amount of the
winterization claimed. The $1000
demands are excessive and fail to provide proof of actual damages.
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- HUD Answer:
- ML 2007-03 included a reference in Attachment 7, describing
winterization requirements for plumbing systems that indicated that all
water must be removed from systems.
That language is being revised as follows:
- “Unless otherwise specified by local variation, the winterization
process must include cleaning toilets and draining of all plumbing and
heating systems in a manner sufficient to prevent freeze and/or other
damage.”
- Demand letters related to winterization will not be issued unless actual
damage has occurred or the M&M is required to re-winterize because
the property is not properly winterized.
When issuance of a demand is appropriate, the M&M may only
demand costs actually incurred to correct the problem.
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- Servicers are receiving demand letters requesting reimbursement of all
securing fees, when only one door or opening was not secured. For example, 2 locks and 2 padlocks
are installed and claimed on the Part B totaling, $160. Property conveys with all 4 locks
intact but a crawl space was left unsecure. Is a demand for the $160
justified, or should it be considered an issue of non-compliance?
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- HUD Answer:
- HUD has clearly defined its minimum securing requirements in Attachment
3, item 1 of ML 2007-03. Failure
to complete those minimum securing requirements is grounds for denial of
securing fees even if some of the tasks were performed.
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- Demand Letter Appeal Process – ML 2007-03 changed the appeal process
for demand letters, now requiring servicers to appeal to the REO
Director within 15 days of the date the letter was issued. 80-85% of demand letters are rescinded
by the M&M management when appealed.
When the demand is not rescinded and the servicer forwards the
appeal to the HOC, it is automatically denied based on not being
submitted within 15 days. Is it
HUD’s intention for servicers to send all appeals to the REO
Director? With 80-85% rescission
rate, this would not be an efficient process for the REO Director.
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- HUD Answer:
- If, following conveyance an M&M contractor finds potential
reconveyance or demand issues, they send an email notifying the servicer
of the issue and requesting clarification. It is our understanding that the vast
majority of issues are resolved at this stage. However, if the issue is not resolved,
the M&M must obtain permission from the GTR to issue a formal Notice
of Intent to Reconvey or Notice of Intent to Collect by Administrative
Offset. It is receipt of either
of these documents that may be sent via email and followed by regular
mail that triggers the 15 day appeal opportunity.
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- Servicers are still receiving denied bids and extension request, and
reconveyances for minor infractions; such as one missing inspection
report, a wrong date entered on a form, and an inspection report missing
one piece of information.
- These instances should be elevated immediately to the GTR and or REO
Director with jurisdiction.
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- Servicers are receiving denied bid requests because the first and
second bids are either 1) too close in price, stating “not independent
and competitive”; or 2) too far apart in price, stating “not the same
scope”. How are servicers to
proceed?
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- HUD Answer:
- Upon receipt of two competitive and independent bids for the same scope
of work, M&M contractors may not deny bid approval or request a
third bid, solely on the basis that the first and second bids are too
close in price.
- Mortgagees should not submit bids that are far apart in price. When bids are far apart mortgagees
must reconcile them prior to submission. If multiple bids are far apart in value,
the M&M may request a revised bid, a third bid or provide a
not-to-exceed amount that would be acceptable for completion of the
work.
- As a reminder, when a second bid is required, mortgagees must obtain an
independent and competitive bid and submit both bids with the
over-allowable request. Field service companies or contractors may not
submit second bids directly to the M&M contractor.
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- Servicers are receiving 2nd bid requests for exterminations and both
bids are denied stating, “complete for the allowable.” Licensed exterminators will not
complete for the allowable for $50 or $110. Is a certified exterminator
required for minor (possible) roach infestation that can be cured with
over the counter products?
- Insects or vermin that can safely be removed with over-the-counter
products do not require professional extermination.
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- Are approved and signed over allowable expenses claimable if the OA
request contains an inaccuracy, such as a mis-typed date?
- M&M contractors should not approve over-allowable requests if they
are aware that some of the information is incorrect.
- However, if an over-allowable request has been approved and the work
was performed properly, an inaccuracy in the request form is not
justification for denial of a claim reimbursement.
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- Some HOCs are upholding large dollar demand letters and requiring
servicers to maintain the heat at properties that do not share common
utilities. This is contradictory
to the instructions in ML 2007-03.
- Servicers are not required and should not be requested to repair
heating systems unless the property is in the possession of the
mortgagee during a period when there is a requirement for the heat to
remain on.
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- Repairing the source of moisture does not prevent the mold from
spreading. This is an issue
pre-sale due to the length of the foreclosure process in several
states. Has HUD given
consideration to approving mold remediation and cleaning beyond stopping
the moisture or source of the mold?
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- HUD Answer:
- A mortgagee must take reasonable action to remediate the cause of the
mold (i.e., patch the roof) and complete any other required preservation
and protection actions related to minimizing further mold damage (i.e.
remove soaked carpeting) prior to conveyance of a property. In most cases this will require an
over-allowable request. HUD will review the over-allowable request and
make a determination if there is sufficient cost benefit to proceed with
the work. These decisions will
generally be made by the GTR. The
EPA web-site’s guide to mold is specific in that “mold spores will not
grow if moisture is not present.”
See www.epa.gov/iaq/molds/moldbasics.html
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- The pulling of city permits typically results in city violations that
must be cured prior to conveyance.
These violations are usually minor, resulting from wear and
tear. Is pulling city permits a
requirement for completing repairs at a property? If so, when is it appropriate?
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- HUD Answer:
- Each lender and/or field service provider should be familiar with the
state and/or jurisdictional requirements related to city ordinances or
local law. If and when a building
permit is required by local law prior to performing preservation and
protection services, then the permit must be obtained. If the code violations found are
health & safety related and/or a minor repair, complete the work. If it is a major repair contact the
M&M contractor. The M&M
contractor should intercede with the community on municipal liens (i.e.,
on properties such as those being placed in the ACA program) or permit
the repairs.
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